>> so what do you think? is hillary clinton's campaign full of controversy? go to thefacebook/.comthekellyf. i'm shannon bream. this is "the kelly file". right now on justice. >> drugs, no alcohol, no cigarettes. >> getting personal. and i sit down with donald trump as he talks about his wife, his kids, and of course his vision for america that has anyone talking. >> do you have any doubt that i will get them to pay for the wall? they will pay for the wall. >> not apologizing. >> that is like a weak, pathetic baby. >> my one-on-one with donald trump starts now. hello, and welcome to "justice,"

i'm judge jeanne pirro. thank you for joining us. we're months into the election cycle. donald trump still maintains a double digit lead over the competitors. and is showing no sign of going away. i sat down with the gop frontrunner at trump tower in new york city. and in the interest of full disclosure, donald and i have been friends to many years. he even donated to some of my past campaigns. but this interview was about policy. although i did get him to open up about some aspects of his personal life which i find very interesting. we'll start with the first question of the fox debate where you were pretty much put at odds with the republican primary audience when they asked if you would run as a third party candidate. but you had said that because you wanted leverage with the republican national committee if they did not treat you well. are they now treating you with respect? >> well, you know, i'm number

one in the polls, florida just came in, i'm number one in florida, new hampshire, iowa, every place. texas just came in, i'm number one in texas, and nationally they have treated me very nice. they're very nice. i keep the door open, because if i am not treated fairly, if i'm not treated fairly, jeanine, i want to run as a republican, and beat hillary clinton or whoever is going to be running. i'm not so sure it's going to be her, but whoever it is i want to win. >> now, let's talk about immigration, you started a firestorm regarding the illegals and now you have another firestorm with the birthright citizenship and the anchor baby. now, the problem is going forward in 2016, we'll have almost 20% more of latino voters. and you know you saying that they love you -- >> they do, the polls are coming

out saying they love me, i'm going to create jobs. it was interesting with the hispanics, in nevada i came in big with the hispanics. have thousands of hispanics who work for me. tens of thousands, i love them, they're incredible people. so many of them agree with me because they came into the country legally. it took time and effort. they don't want the illegals coming into the country, it's no good for them either. >> but 10% say that your plan is to change the strange going forward, are you going to satisfy that -- >> you either have a country or you don't. you can't have everybody pouring into the country illegally. we don't know what we're doing at the border. we have a president that doesn't have a clue. they're just pouring in. we have incredible border patrol people. they can stop it immediately. but they're told not to.

people are just walking in. so you either have a country or you don't have a country. we're going to build a wall -- >> how do you get mexico to pay for it? >> mexico will pay for it? >> how? >> companies that closed down, nabisco, you eat oreos, i used to. not anymore. but the plan is to go to mexico. ford is bringing a massive plant to mexico. >> but how can you get mexico to pay? >> it's called negotiations, politicians can't do it. do you have any doubt that i will get them to pay for the wall? they will pay for the wall. >> donald, i have known you for 25 years. >> you have seen a lot. >> yes, i have seen a lot, we have been friends for a long time, in the interest of disclosure. your move to the right is scaring a lot of -- >> i don't think so, jean, in

fact, i was called by "the new york times." i'm getting a lot from everybody, taking a lot from the democrats. you see i'm virtually tied with hillary clinton now. leading the republican in that respect you know it will be very interesting, you see the piece on hillary clinton. she has some big problems. we'll see what happens. we're doing very well. the tea party, which i love, by the way. these are great people. we have really everybody. and they're surprised because they thought it would be more from the tea party. it is the tea party but it's everybody straight across the board. so you know it's resonating. >> it is resonating. you're going to be on the cover of "time magazine." are you surprised how this whole thing has caught fire? >> well, i think the people are tired of being ripped off by you know, politicians that don't know what they're doing. they're there for one reason and that is to get reelected. and they don't want to be taken advantage of by china, by -- i

mean, you look at every country. mexico both at the border and trade. japan, they sell cars and we give them practically nothing with the trade imbalance. if you look at what is happening in vietnam now. it's all a one-sided deal. i'll bring in carl icahn, friends that are the best negotiators in the world. that will not happen for much longer. so i'm not that surprised -- >> are you concerned about the four-day division -- >> i'm suing univision for $500 million. i'm suing them because what they did was an incredible thing. it's so stupid. i'm a very good person with a contract. they violated the contract so badly that i had with univision. i am suing them. >> let's talk about that -- and the oil -- you say that you

would actually go in there and bomb the iraq oil fields in order to strike isis is that true? >> i said it a little differently. isis is very rich. a big part of that is oil. they have taken the oil we should have taken. i said we should not have ever gone into iraq. i said that in 2004 and 2003. i was always against going into iraq, because you would destabilize the middle east, and that happened. and then if you look at reuters in 2004 of july, i said if that happens look, it's a horrible thing. but i'm proud of the fact that i had the vision to say it. if that happens, iran will take over iraq which is happening. and somebody will take over the oil, probably other people, who is the other people? it's isis. we have to kill, get isis where the money is. we should have kept the oil. >> but here is the problem, you have the outgoing joint chiefs, martin dempsey.

it will take 20 years. >> martin dempsey is not exactly george patton, okay? he is not actually general douglas mcarthur. i heard him. if you listen to him, we'll lose to isis. we'll be very, very strong. if i win, our military will be very, very strong. our vets are going to be taken care of which they're not right now. they're treated like dirt. >> let me ask you about pretty much based on the fact you're wealthy, they talk about an ego, you know because you say you want to make the country great again. how do you feel about that? >> well, i feel that putin is somebody i would actually getg . i get a lot of heat for that. i had a big event in moscow about two years ago, i think i would have a good relationship. it is ridiculous, he hates obama, he can't stand him. i think obama probably can't stand him either.

the relationships we have throughout the world is terrible. the amazing thing, china can't stand us and yet they're making a fortune with us. nobody likes us, and yet they're all taking advantage. we're like the big bully that loses all the time. >> the problem is, we're really a paper tiger. let's talk about the campaign. you're new to politics. the truth is you're so on message, making america great again. you know, where did you learn this discipline? >> i guess it's an instinct i have. but the real instinct is i know what it takes to make the country great. even the public understands. when hillary makes a mistake they go back to their pollsters and say what did we say wrong? when jeb bush says he is not going to help women on women's health issues, i said i can't believe he just said that. then he comes back three hours later and says he misspoke. >> a little too often.

>> they do it all the time. they go back to the pollsters. i say it like it is. sometimes i say it and i say this is not good to say but i say it anyway because it's the truth. i think people want to hear the truth. >> let's talk about the way to your campaigning. you're putting ads on social media, instagram. you go after hillary clinton. and it's a different type of campaign. did you come up with that yourself? >> i'm a very modern person, actually, you know on twitter, like i have millions and millions of people -- at real. i have millions of people and the message gets across. it's incredible. facebook, twitter, instagram. i have many millions of people and it's a great way to communicate. >> okay, but with one particular ad you go after hillary. have you gotten past the primary mentally -- >> i want to deal one step at a time. honestly there are 17 people running as republicans.

of the 17 there are four or five that could possibly win, i would say. i think people will start to drop out pretty soon. and you look at some of them. the thing i was most complemented by, the ones that attacked me are the ones doing the worst. they have all gone down the tubes. which is something. >> what do you think of the american people -- >> the american people are great but are not allowed to do what they want to do. they're holding back this incredible energy and incredible country between regulations and truly stupid leadership in washington. they're holding back this incredible pent-up energy, and when we release it, we'll be great again. >> i want to talk to you about donald trump, the father. most people don't look at you as a dad. but you have three children who are incredibly successful. and unlike most kids whose parents are celebrities, they

don't have run-ins with the law, they come to work every day. they have no drama. what do you attribute the success of your kids? >> well, i have good kids, five wonderful children. they're good students, all very good students. so in that sense i'm lucky or whatever it takes. they are good students and love the adult children, which is don, ivanka and eric, they do it well. >> don't you give yourself some credit for that? >> i do, frankly, i was always very strong. no drugs, alcohol -- >> i remember. >> no drugs, no alcohol, no cigarettes. and i have seen it where kids get stuck, friends of mine, successful guys in some cases very successful with kids who are very smart. but they're stuck on drugs. there is one thing i could tell the kids, no drinking, of any consequence. no drinking and no drugs. i always throw in cigarettes because if you can avoid the cigarettes that is a great

thing. >> what about you? in the 25 years i have known you, i have never known you to drink alcohol. >> well, i just don't ever drink. my brother was an alcoholic, most amazing, handsome guy you have ever seen. the life of the party, fred, he was an incredible guy. but he died of alcoholism. and he was quite a bit older than me, and he would always lecture me, he would say i don't want you to drink, no drinking. big age difference, i saw how he ended up. he had such potential, interests. the most personality, better than anybody, better than me. alcohol destroyed him. and i have seen it destroy so many people and i learned from it. he was a great example to me. and he worked hard. he would always tell me no drinking. he would say no cigarettes, too, you smoke then you drink. >> who is your mentor? your heroes? >> more than anybody else, my

father, a builder in brooklyn, queens, he was a terrific negotiator. he didn't teach me, per se, saying this is the way i would do it but i would be playing with blocks and hear him on the phone negotiating with the electrician or somebody. and that is why when i see the deals we're making with iran, how incompetent it is, how grossly incompetent it is, how bad the negotiation is. how bad, it is just inconceivable to me. >> what about the fact that your sister has now kind of been out as a circuit court of appeals judge. one step down from the united states supreme court. >> well, i have a sister who was a great student. a terrific student, always a brilliant student. and she is a brilliant person. and she you know, because of the fact that she is a high-ranking

federal judge she never did the publicity. she just never wanted that. i did a beautiful story in "the new york times" about her, she doesn't want to be part of the story. i said, are you sure we have the same parents? but she is a terrific person doing well, highly respected by everybody. >> and that is just the beginning. coming up. apologize like a little baby, like a disgusting little weak pathetic baby. >> find out bho he was talking about and what prompted that memorable line. you will also hear his take on the "black lives matter" movement. and i get trump to open up about the woman who could be the first lady, his wife,

democratic presidential candidate martin o'malley when confronted last month from the protester group "black lives matter" said all lives matter. o'malley then apologized for that comment. >> i believe what i first said was black lives matter before those other two phrases and when i said the other two phrases i meant no disrespect. >> and something came up in my

sit-down with donald trump and we'll talk about that comment as well as the busy life of a presidential candidate. you are everywhere, you don't look tired. why? >> because i'm enjoying it. it's nice to be number one. we're going to set this nation on a new course. it's going to be brilliant. it's going to be so good again. people are so disencourage cour. when you look at what is going on in baltimore and ferguson -- first of all you need spirit. there is such a divide. i thought that obama, the one thing i said you know what? he is inexperienced. he doesn't know a lot about -- you know, one thing he is going to be, he will be a good unifier, because he had a chance to be a great unifier. and instead he has been a great divider. and the country needs spirit. it doesn't have spirit. we're not proud anymore. >> so you go for law enforcement

as -- >> i will have total support of law enforcement. you have to. you will always have bad apples, i see things on television, i hate to see it's horrible and disgusting. that is a tiny fraction. law enforcement does an incredible job overall and we have to support law enforcement. you can't let a city like baltimore be ripped apart one evening, the first evening they ripped the entire city apart. it will take 20 years for it to come back the way they do it. the way it happened. but they ripped the city apart. you have to grab ahold of your law enforcement and make sure they do a great job. but they have to be tough. they have to be tough. they have to be fair. they have to be tough. and you have to remember and i said it. you're always going to have some bad apples, no matter where you go you will have bad apples and that will happen, but you have to really support law enforcement. >> what about "black lives matter"? >> well, i don't know much about

it. i see lots of bad stuff right now. i thought when o'malley made the statement, saying white lives matter, black lives matter. he apologized like a weak, disgusting baby. that is the problem with our country. i don't even when you say political correct, i think it is political incorrect. but when i watched him apologize and then he had a news conference in front of my building in las vegas because he thought he would get publicity. when i watched that whole thing going on and how they pander, i think it's a disgrace. >> well, one of the things that americans see in you is someone who digs his heels in and doesn't apologize to something -- >> how can you apologize when you say all lives matter, which is true? white lives matter, which is true. all lives matter, which is true. and then they get angry because you said white at all, they don't want you to mention that.

>> right, right. >> what is there to apologize for? >> okay, jury duty. you were excused. you would write down that you were a politician -- what would you say -- >> i'm a politician now, can you believe it? never thought it in a million years. i'm a politician. so i will be a politician who will not be all talk no action. >> all right, this election is a long way away. 2016. do you think there is a point when the honeymoon is over? >> probably, maybe. it's no honeymoon. it's a tough time, don't forget when i announced the press covered me very inaccurately. you know, you were great and i met some incredible political reporting in media. i was covered very dishonestly. i have great relationships with mexican people. but they made it like they didn't report what i said. they reported half sentences. one third of a sentence. and you know that was no honeymoon that first week and a half.

then it turned out it was illegal immigration. and it turned out i was right. >> i asked my facebook followers what question they would put to you? and they said ask mr. trump how he is going to deal with them. if he doesn't like them will he say you're fired? >> i have been dealing with these people for many years. you know that. i did -- frankly, you can deal with the new york city politics you can probably deal with anywhere in the world. i have a huge mass of projects going on in zoning, i have been in politics all my life for a long time. it's leadership. you have to get people to -- ronald reagan got along with people. he had a great relationship, when they got things done, that will happen with me too. i don't need executive orders. that will happen with me, too. >> and with respect to the people in power you will show them a way of life they have

never seen before. >> it is interesting, when obama plays golf it's a good thing, important. but he should be playing with john boehner and people who are going to help him close the deal as opposed to playing with friends. he might enjoy that even more but you can use golf as a tool. and he should have used it as a tool. he would have signed far fewer, in my opinion. executive orders. >> and finally, vice president. >> well, just too soon. >> i know, but as you look at the field, the other 16 or 17, is there anyone in that field as they start to build you up amazingly and agreeing with you, whether it's jindal or walker, everybody is kind of coming to your side of things. do you think potential among the candidates? >> look, there are people i have great respect for on that stage that we just left. where they gave me number one rating. that was very good. that made me feel good. but frankly there are people i have great respect for.

there and elsewhere. i have people who i have great respect for. >> are you going to focus on the swing states? >> you know what i'm going to focus on? i'm going to focus on the whole country, making our country great. that is what we have to do. i am not going to focus on any specific place. i go to new hampshire, iowa, south carolina, every poll is coming in. new hampshire number one, iowa number one. south carolina, texas just came in number one -- >> they love you. >> i'm number one in florida. >> where do you get the confidence from? >> i don't think it's confidence. i just believe in what i'm doing. i don't even believe it as confidence, i believe so strongly in what i'm doing. our country. i love the companies and my children, we have fun and i built a great company. don't forget, people said oh, never -- and my financials were far greater than anybody ever thought possible. it has got great it has the best properties.

there is something much more important about it. that is the country. and i just think i'm going to do a great job. when you say confident. i don't think it's confident. i just believe in what i'm saying. and we can turn this country around, we can create jobs. you know, we have 93 million people unemployed. it's a phoney statistic when they say 9.3%. we have millions and millions of people on food stamps. just a terrible situation going on, it's a phoney reporting system, you know it could be 40%, the actually number could be 40%. i actually saw a number that said 42%, i always say 20% unemployment. we can take the jobs back from china and japan and mexico. nabisco should not be moving to mexico. they should be building a new plant somewhere in our country. >> big question, melania, she is beautiful, classy, stunning, i know her. when is america going to get a

real look at melania. and you know, she -- >> she is a tremendous person. >> and a great person. >> she was a tremendous person, a very successful person. and she will be an amazing -- i've heard people say you know i don't care if you're president but she has to be first lady. which is sort of an interesting little statement to make. >> well, there it is -- >> but she is a beautiful person. but she is a beautiful person in the heart. she cares tremendously about women's health issues. she has just a great -- you know her very well. she is a tremendous person. people will love her when they get to know her. >> my thanks to gop presidential candidate donald trump for a very revealing interview. and next we talk about it with former senator scott brown. and then sheriff david clark. his take on trump's comments on the "blacktomorrow.

i'm jackie ibanez. now back to judge jeanine. >> i just don't drink, my brother was an alcoholic. he had such potential, he was handsome, the best personality than anybody. alcohol destroyed him. >> you heard it hear on "justice." donald trump got personal in my one-on-one with him. touching on his brother's death from alcoholism. as well as how he raised his children. and here with me to discuss my interview with, scott brown. good evening, senator, most see donald trump as a strong businessman but now we see kind of a personal side. should he do more of this? >> well, i think it certainly is important. and by the way, good evening, judge to you and all of your viewers. and thank you for having me on. i think it's important to talk about personal stories in someone's life, especially if you're going to be representing this great country.

i think marco rubio does it very, very well. what donald referenced with the loss of his brother is certainly very powerful. and his discipline with his kids is notable. he keeps saying if i'm not treated fairly. i have not heard anyone ask him what does that actually mean, fairly? i think he is being treated very fairly. does fairly mean that you're asked tough questions or you're bringing up references of things you have said and you change your mind and you get put on the spot? so maybe next time you can ask him what does it actually mean, fairly? >> well, i don't think if donald trump ever thinks he is on the spot. he seems to be able to answer the question. but senator, let's talk about this. you have run several campaigns. you know the value of earned media. donald trump doesn't have to buy ads or do what everybody else is doing. he is the news. now he is on twitter and

facebook. you know, he doesn't have to spend much money based on the attention he is getting, does he? >> no, not at all. and he is the frontrunner and deserves the attention. let me tell you, my assessment of donald, i met him and like him. i think he brings a lot of creativity, the business sense, the ability to create jobs. that strong personality. and here is the thing i think that has been lacking especially after almost seven years of president obama. he was spot on. i said this before, the president, this president will go down as one of the greatest dividers. what donald is talking about is restoring america and making it great again and believing that we live in the greatest country in the world. i have said it. i believe it. and the think i like about him is he is actually reminding people of how it used to be and with the hope that we can actually be that way again. i think that is an important factor and that is one thing that i think really sets him

aside from everybody else. so i'm kind of waiting and listening and learning about donald and his policies. but you have to start to put substance behind his ideas. that is what i'm hearing from middle class people, black, white, young, older, people in this country right now. >> he has started doing that. and i think that one of the issues, he is talking about sanctuary cities and building a wall. he is talking about a lot of different things. but you know he is in many ways, senator, saying things as you say yourself you said. why is it that he gets so much traction? >> well, because he is donald. listen, he is getting paid what? $300 million to host the apprentice, he is a multi billionaire -- >> senator, isn't he -- >> well, right now he is a celebrity first. and now he is turning into a

politician, somebody who is -- and what i respect is you have somebody like that who is perta putting it all on the line. putting aside his business, his accomplishments, putting it all out there for the public to praise or criticize. and trying to do something for the country and i like that a lot. so we'll see where it goes. people know him as a celebrity. now they're kind of testing the waters, poking and prodding. listening to him to see if it is real. that is where we are in new hampshire. 25% in a 17-person field you know that is going to win it. i agree with him. there will be people dropping out and they should. when you have the four or five-man field then it will get interesting. >> all right, senator scott brown. thank you for joining us this evening. >> all right, now trump on law enforcement. criminal justice and the black

lives matter movement. good evening, sheriff david clark. >> good evening, judge. >> all right, you heard him. he said he totally supports law enforcement. music to your ears? >> puts a smile on my face and i don't smile often. but finally i was hoping one of these candidates would stand up and support the american police officer. the american police officer are the only thing that is holding these american ghettoes together. we need a president who is going to appoint an attorney general who will see law enforcement as an ally in the pursuit of justice and they will target criminals instead of police officers and police agencies. >> you know, one of the things that he said -- and when he was talking about nothing to apologize for. and you know, that all lives matter. what i don't understand, sheriff, is that this black lives matter movement, why are

they only incensed if there is a death at the hands of law enforcement, and not the overwhelming issue which is the death of african americans at the hands of african americans? >> because this is a political construct. look, this group is misguided. they could be a force for good. but instead they're just shields for the democratic party. what they should protest is that in the obama recovery black people still can't find work. the unemployment is about 16%, in milwaukee, the unemployment rate is 32%. they ought to protest the fact, they have to send their kids, the kids are shackled to failing in k-12 schools, while president obama sends his kids to elite schools. the poverty is a livestyle in the american ghetto because people are hooked on the

happen handouts and are comfortable being dependent. but this unit, the group, the mob has made the american police officer the straw man. >> and are you concerned about the implications, the anarchy, you know, from the occupy wall street, to you know, ferguson. i mean, you have got this michael brown, all right, who is like hailed as some kind of a hero. fighting with a cop over his gun. no charges against the cop who killed him. and a 9-year-old girl, we don't know who killed her but when a 9-year-old girl is shot and killed nobody says boo. >> right, they should be down there trying to help the ferguson police capture the individuals involved in the drive by shooting, shooting into a house where the 9-year-old was doing homework at the time. it is really pathetic. but at the same time the police are the straw men in this. and until this group and others back off of the american police

officer, look, the social order has collapsed in baltimore, in st. louis, in milwaukee, wisconsin, the american ghetto, and only the police officers are down there trying to keep it together. and we saw over the weekend in the city of baltimore what life looks like without the police. it looked like boko haram came through there with the death and carnage. 45 people killed in a month. >> quickly, sheriff, do you get pushed back on this yourself? >> a little bit. i don't worry about it. this is more about other people than it is about me. somebody has to stand up and i'm willing to do it not only for the police officer but for good law abiding black people who live in the ghetto. and that is the overwhelming majority of people. and what did our founding fathers really have in mind? a constitutional law attorney and i go at it next.

donald trump's comments on birthright citizenship has stirred up some controversy, and with me now david ripkin. good evening, david. >> good to be with you. >> so as the supreme court ruled that children of illegals are american citizens -- >> they have ruled. the earliest case to hold that is a -- late 19th century case, united states versus wong kim ong, where there was a question whether or not a child born in san francisco to chinese parents who were not here on official duty could come back into the united states. he was not allowed to come back

initially because of so-called chinese exclusion acts. the supreme court upgraded that position -- >> hold on, i want to talk to you about wong kim. wong kim's parents were not illegals. they in fact were permanent -- they had permanent domicel -- domicile so they were here legally in the united states. the question i asked was whether or not the supreme court ruled on children whose parents were not citizens -- >> let me explain where it's irrelevant. >> really, let's take a look at the 14th amendment just because we don't have a lot of time. the 14th amendment says that all persons born here are naturalized in the united states and subject to the jurisdiction are citizens of the united states. now, what does subject to the jurisdiction mean?

>> this means an individual who is subject to the authority of the united states government, to force the united states laws. and your honor, this very question was considered during the legislative history leading to the ratification. what it means basically, everybody except for foreign diplomats, foreign soldiers and perhaps indians on tribal land. that is what it means. your status is lawful, and lawful immigrant is irrelevant. it's the fact that you're subject to the laws of the united states. >> and the amendment to 14 says that congress will have the power to enforce by appropriate legislation the provisions of this article. now, in 1923, congress reversed and granted citizenship to all native americans. now, that was contrary to the 14th amendment. so that tells me that congress

can go against specifically what is written in the 14th amendment since they have the jurisdiction over that amendment. what does it tell you? >> with respect to it's not true. first of you are talking about enables congress to do nothing more than enact legislation that carries into force the language of the 14th amendment. number one. as to the indian tribes -- >> that's not correct. that's not correct. it says that it gives them the power to enforce by appropriate legislation the provisions of this article, and yet the 14th amendment was changed by congress in 1923, when they granted citizenship -- >> it was not. it was not. let me explain very briefly. the reason the indian tribes were not viewed in this light is because they were very much autonomous. by the time -- by the early 20th century, there had been so much legislation that impacted, if you will, diminished their sovereignty that they were

subject to the jurisdiction of the united states. >> i'm sorry we don't have a lot of time. thank you very much. we'll be right back with your ooñóokñ.??????ó

welcome book "justice."

you saw my interview with donald trump and we had an overwhelm g ing response on facebook and twitter. >> i would love to know more of what yo think. facebook or tweet me at judge jeanine. before we leave tonight, you never know who you're going to run into at trump tower. look who stopped by right before my interview.

that's new england patriots' owner bob craft. i asked him if he wanted to discuss deflate gate and tom brady. but he didn't have time to chat. that's it for us tonight. and remember, you don't ever have to remember "justice." just set your dvr. tell your friends to do the same. thanks for joining us. friend me on facebook, follow me on twitter. see you next week, same time, same place. same me. hubby.

>> i am conflicted with anxiety no matter what. julie banderas next. check it out. we are hearing from the americans hailed as heroes from stopping for what could have been a bloody massacre in europe. witnesses say two of the americans, both military servicemen jumped in to action and tackling the heavy armed gunman. they were able to disarm him and boat him unconscious. a third american helped to tie up the suspect before officials could take over. it happen on a high speed train from amsterdam to paris. here they